tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post5229078712250712803..comments2024-03-01T11:27:10.550-08:00Comments on Civil 3D Reminders: A Data Management or Object Management ProblemChristopher Fugitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08752969412509715827noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post-6275252222850246432013-01-12T13:13:19.232-08:002013-01-12T13:13:19.232-08:00Nice! I like C3D Cougars comment as well. I'm ...Nice! I like C3D Cougars comment as well. I'm with you as well, don't give us any more features that 95% of the users don't or can't use anyways. Make it work and get us all back into some productions, as we all expected out of this venture. :-)<br /><br />Just because a small handful of us can do it, doesn't help the much larger user base that can't. Yes us long time C3D junkies can figure out how to get around it, the other 95% are out of luck, until the software is better, in many ways. Said by someone who loves Autodesk, AutoCAD, Civil 3D, you get the point....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post-84742195080187609592013-01-11T07:59:34.379-08:002013-01-11T07:59:34.379-08:00We survey using laser scanning. We use a Reigl sc...We survey using laser scanning. We use a Reigl scanner which is one of the fastest, long range terrestrial scanners available. We scan building interiors, exteriors, runways, and certain sites not suitable for conventional surveying; we can provide such detail that we can monitor for erosion and structural deviations over time. The precision that these scanners provide has been comparable to conventional surveys. Using laser scanning enables us to turn days in the field into hours and also enables us to retain high quality digital photography of site features as well as point clouds containing those features which allows us to virtually "walk the site" at any time. We currently use a product called TopoDot which installs as a 3rd party on MicroStation. Although TopoDot provides some sophisticated tools for extracting linework and site features from point clouds (even measuring the dips of utility wires for power companies), we would rather be doing this in AutoCAD due to various issues with entities that come over from the conversion process.<br /><br />I agree with you on many points in this post. I would like to see Autodesk provide a tool for extracting features out of point clouds but not necessarilly inside Civil 3D. I do believe there are many existing "features" in Civil 3D that require improvement. I'm really not interested in anymore Civil 3D new features. Fix the old features. I have a list. Maybe I'll post it in my next blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post-21383060725810320882013-01-11T07:29:01.814-08:002013-01-11T07:29:01.814-08:00I get the advantages of point clouds, I just don&#...I get the advantages of point clouds, I just don't see the advantage of using point clouds with Civil 3D if there are no objects to turn them into. I think Jeff Kowalski at AU 2011 inadvertently illustrated the issue in his infinite computing talk on the main stage. The point cloud image showed a bridge, sign, pavement, curb, cars, and trees. The infinite computing was used to remove all of the point clouds except for the ground surface. If we have infinite computing shouldn't we be creating tree, bridge, and the other objects in Civil 3D? Seems like Autodesk has no real BIM version, other then using the term to sell us a crappy BIM product.Christopher Fugitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00406998819846640638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post-62134924864696154912013-01-11T05:57:30.253-08:002013-01-11T05:57:30.253-08:00In our corner of the country, Point Clouds have be...In our corner of the country, Point Clouds have been flown and point data classified. Currently, this is used in place of DEM files or any other conceptual surface data you might find. <br /><br />Why? At least for us, the point clouds are obviously not the same quality as a ground or aerial survey. But it is better than most other data types for planning.<br /><br />So why do i need such a large data source to plan a project? Well, transportation projects are a clear use of this data. But also anything else that is miles of linear development would be applicable; like an oil or gas pipeline.<br /><br />By the way, I do agree with your general assessment of Civil 3D. Every firm i visit, talks about their production process. When i mention the speed/regen topic about layouts, lightbulbs in their heads start going off. Any way... love your posts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25214213.post-26281646057323204752013-01-11T00:02:59.927-08:002013-01-11T00:02:59.927-08:00I agree with the comments about point clouds and t...I agree with the comments about point clouds and the lack of BIM functionality in general in Civil 3DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com