Wednesday, April 01, 2009

Civil 3D 2010 - Daylight Grading

Note: This post was an April Fool’s post and Civil 3D 2010 will ship with Grade to a Surface available in the Grading Criteria. Sorry for any convenience this may have caused. But the post still has an alternative method when the Grade to Surface doesn’t work.

One of the surprising changes in the Civil 3D 2010 product is the removal of the ability to Grade to a Surface. I guess the developers have given up on the feature until it becomes more stable.


So what are we to do? Well I’ve come up with an alternative method, while it does take a few more steps it is more reliable. The first thing you need to do is to grade to distance at the slope you want that will be sufficient to daylight the feature line.


Next create a volume surface using the Existing Ground surface and the grading surface.


Next add a User-Defined Contour at the 0 elevation, or the daylight line.


The user-defined contour in yellow, as you can see it’s only half of the solution.


Next extract the user-defined contour from the surface.


Now edit the grading to do the opposite slope and then rebuild the TIN Volume Surface created earlier. As you can see in the picture below all of the daylight lines for the grading exist. Extract the second user-defined from the TIN Volume Surface.


So now convert the extracted user-defined contours from 2D polylines to 3D Polylines.


Now sample Elevations from Surface for the two 3D Polylines.


Now add the 3D Polylines to your surface. You may want to increase the supplementing factors for the breaklines around the daylight lines.


As the surface below shows the surface needs a boundary around the surface.


The completed surface.


So that’s the finished surface. Sure it takes a few more steps, but there is less chance of crashing and it may be good thing that the feature has been removed from Civil 3D 2010.


Jasone said...

Bummer - yeah it would crash IF you left it dynamic... everyone in my firm uses these in 2009 and just explodes them... a much better solution than just straight up removing them as options! That's disappointing.

Anonymous said...

You about gave me a heart attack! I went into the grading in my 2010 and grade to surface was there. Perhaps you have a different version than I have.

Jack Strongitharm said...

I dont know how you have it missing, but I still have grade to surface, I can send you image to show you. Could be your template?

I haven't seen it removed in the Betas and also I have the final build before we release on my machine.

Jack Strongitharm
Autodesk UK

Christopher Fugitt said...

Ok, it's actually still in 2010, it's just sometimes when it doesn't work this is what I do to get a daylight line.

Part April Fool's joke, part helpful post.

Anonymous said...

It seems like you can't create a new Grading Criteria Set with criteria anymore in 2010 and wondering how they got the Basic Set in the first place

I know it's still the beta version running on my laptop


Wendy Miller said...

LOL! That was a fantastic April Fool joke. You nearly gave me a heart attack (see the above comment) and you opened my Civil 3D mind an made me thing outside of the box. Great tip!


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